Bracketology
May
2007
This past week was an interesting one. First, I would like to thank all of those who checked over the AQs to make sure I had the right conferences. I would like to apologize to the North Atlantic and North Eastern Athletic for leaving them out the first time. Second, kudos to Ralph for catching the bid allocation error. Also this time, I used the NCAA rankings to assist me in selecting the Independent and At-Large qualifiers. I also made sure that the IQs and At-Larges had completed 32 games. It is amazing how much the records can be off from the ones I compile because coaches forget to report their scores to the NCAA database so the selection committee has all the information. So without further ado I give you the breakdown of the bids and then seed them in the tournament!
Automatic Qualifiers (33 Pool A)
Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference = Frostburg St (MD) (27-13)^
American Southwest Conference = TX Lutheran (32-8-1)
*Centennial Conference = Johns Hopkins (MD) (34-9)
College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin = Illinois Wesleyan (30-9)
*Commonwealth Coast Conference = Curry (MA) (27-7)
*Great Northeast Athletic Conference = Western New England (MA) (25-8)
Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference = Translyvania (KY) (30-9)
Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference = Wartburg (IA) (26-11)
Liberty League = Rensselaer (NY) (27-8)
Little East Conference = Eastern Connecticut (30-9)
*MAC Commonwealth Conference = Elizabethtown (PA) (21-15)
*MAC Freedom Conference = Wilkes (PA) (23-10)
*Massachusetts State College Athletic Conference = Westfield State (MA) (20-15)
*Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association = Hope (MI) (28-11)
*Midwest Conference = St. Norbert’s (WI) (24-8-1)
Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference = St. Olaf (MN) (27-6)^
New England Small College Athletic Conference = Tufts (MA) (22-9)
*New England Women’s and Men’s Athletic Conference = Wheaton (MA) (31-11)
New Jersey Athletic Conference = The College of New Jersey (31-8)
*North Atlantic Conference = St. Joseph’s (ME) (30-8)
North Coast Athletic Conference = Wooster (OH) (35-3)
*North Eastern Athletic Conference = Villa Julie (MD) (26-16)
*Northwest Conference = Pacific Lutheran (WA) (32-7)
Ohio Athletic Conference = Marietta (OH) (28-11)^
*Old Dominion Athletic Conference = Bridgewater (VA) (21-21)
*Pennsylvania Athletic Conference = Gwynedd Mercy (PA) (30-10)
*Skyline Conference = Manhattanville (NY) (23-17)
*Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference = Pomona Pitzer (CA) (29-11)
*Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference = Austin College (TX) (22-23)
St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference = Webster (MO) (27-12)
*State University of New York Athletic Conference = SUNY-Cortland (35-4)
*USA South Athletic Conference = Ferrum (VA) (23-16)
Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference = UW-Oshkosh (28-8)
*Conference Season Completed, team has secured automatic qualifier
^Tie in conference, best overall record taken
Independent Qualifiers (6 Pool B)
1. Chapman (CA) (35-5)
2. Emory (GA) (35-7)
3. Salisbury (MD) (30-7)
4. St. Scholastica (MN) (31-6)
5. Washington (MO) (30-9)
6. York (PA) (28-10)
At-Large Qualifiers (14 Pool C)
1. Kean (NJ) (33-7)
2. George Fox (OR) (23-9)
3. Ithaca (NY) (23-10
4. Otterbein (OH) (27-10)
5. TX-Dallas (32-11)
6. St. Thomas (MN) (26-9)
7. Luther (IA) (26-9)
8. Washington & Jefferson (PA) (26-6)
9. Methodist (NC) (28-11)
10. Rhodes College (TN) (36-10)
11. Trinity (CT) (28-6)
12. Augustana (IL) (29-10)
13. SUNY Brockport (24-15)
14. Mt. St. Joseph’s (OH) (30-9)
Groupings and Rankings for Tournament
Central
(1) IL Wesleyan
(2) Washington (MO)
(3) Augustana
(4) Rhodes
(5) Webster
(6) Hope
Mid-Atlantic
(1) The College of NJ
(2) Johns Hopkins
(3) Kean
(4) Gwynedd Mercy
(5) Wilkes
(6) Frostburg State
(7) Elizabethtown
Mideast
(1) Wooster
(2) Marietta
(3) Transylvania
(4) Otterbein
(5) Washington & Jefferson
(6) Mt. St. Joseph
Midwest
(1) St. Olaf
(2) UW-Oshkosh
(3) Wartburg
(4) St. Thomas
(5) Luther
(6) St. Scholastica
(7) St. Norbert
New England
(1) Eastern Connecticut
(2) Western New England
(3) Wheaton
(4) Tufts
(5) Curry
(6) St. Josephs (ME)
(7) Westfield State
New York
(1) Cortland State
(2) Rensselaer
(3) Ithaca
(4) Trinity
(5) SUNY Brockport
(6) Manhattanville
South
(1) Emory
(2) Salisbury
(3) York
(4) Methodist
(5) Ferrum
(6) Bridgewater
(7) Villa Julie
West
(1) Chapman
(2) TX Lutheran
(3) Pacific Lutheran
(4) George Fox
(5) Pomona Pitzer
(6) TX Dallas
(7) Austin College
Last Five In
Rhodes College (TN) (36-10)
Trinity (CT) (28-6)
Augustana (IL) (29-10)
SUNY Brockport (24-15)
Mt. St. Joseph’s (OH) (30-9)
Last Five Out
Carthage – Great week has them moving up the board
Thomas More – Losing 2 of 3 vs Washington & Jefferson haunts them
Ramapo – Not a good conference tourney run drops power ranking down to 9.25
Keene State – Two losses since last post, need a strong run in tourney to get in
SUNY Oneonta – quick exit in conference tourney dashes any hopes
Falling Out
Edgewood – Can’t go 2-2 for the week at home against teams behind you in conference
Averett – QOWI under 9 won’t get you in even with that record
Millsaps – Same as Averett
Keene State – See Above
Thomas More – See Above
King’s – Losing conference tournament hurts their cause
Arcadia – Same as King’s
Salve Regina – Had to win conference tourney after I calculated a power ranking under 9
La Roche – Gave Frostburg AQ currently due to better overall record, conference tourney win puts them in.
Moving In
Augustana – Strong finish making the early conference struggles disappear
Wilkes – Sweep through tourney for the conference’s AQ
Frostburg State – Better overall puts them in over La Roche, can’t wait to see them play in the tourney
Elizabethtown – Sweeping through tourney has Owls flying high
Transylvania – Regular season MCAC champ, should get in even if they lose tourney
St. Norberts – Going 3-1 vs Ripon puts them in the MWC driver seat
Ithaca – Flip a coin between them and York for the last IQ spot
SUNY Brockport – Power ranking of 9.8 makes the committee forget about the record
Methodist – Power ranking in the 9.8 range gets them in
Villa Julie – Keystone swept them in the championship, but get the AQ since Keystone is still provisional
NOTES
I ranked the IQs and At-Larges this time for some added discussion. Both Gwynedd Mercy and John’s Hopkins won 2 on the last day to get the conferences AQ. Two of the last five are sending them gifts as we speak. Lack of quality teams in the Midwest and Central could make for some interesting arrangements come tourney time. Mid-Atlantic is very strong as those top three teams would be a #1 seed in three other regions. Mt. St. Joseph is the only team I put in the tournament with an At-Large or IQ without being ranked by the committee. It is a strong region and finishing 1 game out from Translyvania should put them in. They probably should get to the conference tournament championship game to be safe. Otherwise I will put my money on Thomas More or Carthage getting the other spot. I hope everyone enjoys this week’s version. I might try to put one out next Sunday as well. Until then.
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May 7th, 2007 at 4:05 am
ramapos qowi is 9.51 not 9.25 they had a win against manhattanville before tourney started
May 7th, 2007 at 4:39 am
mt st joes lost to some below average teams, very below average
May 7th, 2007 at 10:09 am
what kind of index do you have for 11-14 of the pool c’s?
May 7th, 2007 at 10:15 am
i had ramapo at a 9.62 after they beat manhattanville it went up to 9.72, then losing 2 in playoffs to kean and msu, got it down to a 9.514 , where did you get the 9.25 from?
May 7th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Oneonta made it to the SUNYAC championship round as the number four seed in the tournament. They’re ranked highly in the New York regional poll but I can’t see them as one of the last teams out.
Trinity didn’t even make their conference tournament. I can’t see a team that didn’t make the NESCAC tournament getting a Pool C bid.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Attention Dixon;
The Iowa Conference Baseball Tournament is scheduled to be played this week, May 10-12 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The winner of the tournament receives the AQ from our league. Wartburg and Luther tied for the regular season championships, but Wartburg earns the No. 1 seed for the tournament.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:23 am
I agree, John. Trinity is not going to get a Pool C bid. They have no impressive wins other than Amherst and the 1 of 3 they took from Tufts.
Williams, on the other hand, has a very good Pool C shot if they don’t win the NESCAC tourney. Their QOWI is above 10 right now.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:33 am
Baseballcrazy, I just wanted to let you know that when I calculated the power ranking, I used all of their D3 games because I am not always sure about who is in-region and who is not. When I calculated that way, Ramapo came out at 9.211, Mt. St. Joseph at 9.5, Trinity’s was at 9.7, SUNY Brockport was at 9.8, and Rhodes was at 9.5. I did not calculate Augustana’s and I cannot remember what I had SUNY Oneonta number at. I still think Ramapo has a shot, but going 3-7 in their last 10 really was a huge knock against them.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Here is how I see it, in the New England region, the fact that Trinity didn’t make their conferance tourney, Keene St. has been losing, Salve’s schedule is a joke, and the fact that Babson advanced to the finals of the NEWMAC’s vs Wheaton, along with the fact that they beat southern maine and split with Tufts to end the year, definitely makes them a contender. They are 25-14, with a QOWI higher than Tufts and Southern Maine, along with many wins over the top ranked region teams. If Williams takes the auto bid from the NESCAC, you can make a strong case for Babson.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:45 am
ok thank you
May 7th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
B2,
I spoke with one of Babson’s coach’s after the Tufts doubleheader….they are making plans for the ECAC tourney. They absolutely know they are not going to the NCAAs. They didn’t even think a sweep would do the trick. With that said, I definitely think Babson is a very, very good team. They are definitely good enough to be in the NCAAs, but their early losses to Plymouth St., Coast Guard, MIT, and others killed their index.
Southern Maine and Tufts both need to win their tourneys to get in. Keene St. had won 8 in a row before losing 2 to ECSU, so a LEC 2nd place run might be good enough to get them a Pool C bid. And Williams should get in if they don’t win the NESCAC tourney. Their QOWI is right at 10.
May 7th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I cant see Trinity gettin a POOL C bid….without even making their conference tourney
I agree the LEC will be a 2-bid league…..with Eastern Conn being the only lock going into the tourney…..Keene St and Southern Maine are possible POOL C’s
What happens with Ramapo who went 0-2 in the NJAC tourney arguably the best conference in the country……will they get a bid with wins over Montclair and 2 against Rowan or do they have too few big wins outside the league
What happens with Arcadia and Alvernia……both went 0-2 and 1-2 respecitvely in the league toruney, however each is regionally ranked in the tough Mid-atlantic. Alvernia biggest win is vs Wheaton….Arcadia has a pretty weak schedule so that may seal their fate.
Bostonian…..ECAC’s are before the regionals this year and following certain guidelines teams can participate in those as well as the NCAA’s. That being the case i wouldn’t totally rule out Babson if they have a good showing in the ECAC’s that may help there cause
Williams appears to be a lock from the NESCAC with there good QOWI
SUNY Brockport 24-15 and went 1-2 in the league tourney…..they went 2-1 vs #3 ranked SUNY Cortland…..2-0 vs Alvernia…..spilt with Keene St and a road win at Marrietta….however they were knocked out by SUNY Oneonta who took 2outta3 from them…..however went 0-4 vs SUNY Cortland
Augustana has a relatively weak overall schedule and they were left out of the toruney last year after going 31-10….and most likely wont have more wins this year….it’ll be interesting to see what Carthage does in this tourney they may need to win it…..Illinois Wesleyan appears to be a lock at 30-9
May 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Luther and Wartburg appear to be locks as well
May 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
frozenrope: Here’s what the ECAC gives for Division III New England baseball dates – May 16, 18-19.
Those are concurrent with NCAA, as always.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
if so then i guess Babson is out of the question……but in the NY region the ECAC tourney is this weekend…..making it before the NCAA’s
May 7th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Bostonian,
Good to hear, it’s a shame those early losses ruled them out, b/c they definitly can contend, but hopefully they’ll have a good run in the ECACs if they go. I am wondering if there will even be a Pool C bid in New England if Williams and EConn win their tournaments, and Keene St makes an early exit from the LEC tourney. That would set the New England bracket just from automatic bids looking something like this:
1.)EConn
2.)Wheaton
3.)WNEC
4.)Williams (assuming they win the NESCACs)
5.)Curry
6.)St. Joseph’s Maine
7.)Westfield St (assuming they win the MASCACs)
If this all were to happen, who would claim that 8th spot? It would have to be a Pool C bid, correct? I think Trinity not qualifying for NESCACs rules them out, Southern Maine having a low QOWI rules them out, and Keene’s recent skid might rule them out. Any thoughts?
May 7th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
B2 that is definately a great possibility…..but with 14 POOL C bids out there i find it hard to believe a strong region like the New England would not get a single one of the 14.
Front runners would have to be:
Keene St 25-11
Tufts 23-10
May 7th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
what is the scoop for Ripon? I saw them having a solid regional record and ranked in the midwest but they dont appear in any of the predictions??
May 7th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
frozen,
Tufts has less points than Babson (25-14), Keene is a possibility, but they better win a couple in the LEC tourney, or that last spot is definitely up for grabs.
May 7th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
i agree once kean gets off the board ramapo will be put on most likely and they have a legitimate shot, very tough conference i just sat through 2 games that came down to the wire with tcnj winning on a walk off bases loaded walk
May 7th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
methodist’s pool c hopes took a bit of a hit today with 2 losses at salisbury – after beating york on saturday, i thought the monarchs had a legit shot, and they still might…but i think it’s a long-shot
they finish the regular season 29-13 overall, 24-12 in region and i have them calculated at a 9.44 qowi…a split with salisbury today would have put them at 9.67 qowi, and i think they would have been a relative lock (not the use of the term relative)…my fingers are still crossed, and i’m clearly rooting for all pool a favorites in conference tournaments from here on out, but i’m also realistic
May 7th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Assuming the POOL B teams are:
1.Chapman
2.Emory
3.Sailsbury
4.St Scholastica
5.Washington (MO)
6.Ithaca
Any thoughts on who is a lock for a POOL C
1.Kean
2.George Fox
3.St Thomas
4.Otterbein
5.Luther
6.York
7.Washington & Jefferson
8.UT-Dallas
May 7th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
kean should be
May 7th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
i would hope kean would be
May 7th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
if kean goes top few that should open up hopefully to give ramapo a shot
May 7th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
I calculated Ramapo’s in-region record at 23-10.
Wins: Fitchburg, Westfield, St Mary’s MD 2, Mass Coll of Lib Arts 2, at Catholic U, WCSU, Rutgers-Newark, Montclair St, at Rutgers-Camden 2, NJCU, Stockton 2, Staten Island, at John Jay, Rowan 2, Drew, at Rutgers-Newark, Mt St Vincent, at Manhattenville.
Losses: at Catholic U, at Kean, at Montclair St, at TCNJ 2, Kean, at WPU 2, (n) Montclair St, (n) Kean.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Fitchburg, Westfield St Mary’s and MCLA are at a neutral site.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
ramapo is 25-10 in region
May 7th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
does anyone have any thoughts on elizabethtown college?
May 7th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
ramapo was 24-8 region before 1 win against manhattanville and 2 losses in playoffs
May 7th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
penn state altoona 2 wins within radius for region
May 7th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
ramapo beat newark 2x
May 7th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
and njcu 2x
May 7th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
My bad, add 2 wins over PSU-Altoona from the AMCC as the other Mid-Atlantic games. Thanks. (Keeping the regions across the various sports in tough.) The Deifance win and the loss to W&J do not count nor do the games versus the Apprentice School.
I will hold off on calculating their QOWI until the Rankings on Thursday, if they are in the Mid-Atlantic Rankings.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
ralph the games you didnt count are 2 wins each instead of 1 against both njcu and rutgers newark should be 25-10 in region
May 7th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
no problem, thanx for checking
May 7th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
i dont see why they wouldne be in the mid atlantic rankings, arcadia should have swapped with them ramapo should have a qowi of .200 over them and alvernia and the other 2 teams behind dropped their games
May 8th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Elizabethtown College is not called the Owls. They are the Blue Jays, but the conference tourny was at Owl’s Field, so maybe that is where the name came from. Great website and love everything about the brackets so far
May 8th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Your bracketologist is back with some more information from some teams you are inquiring about. I looked over some of the teams and first off, both Keene State and Williams have Power Rankings in the 10.2-10.4 range. So that definately makes them strong candidates and would change my opinion on Trinity making the tourney. The only thing I worry about with Williams, and Ripon (for 13), is playing so few games, two losses in a row could really hurt the power ranking average. Ripon alone lost a lot from dropping 3 of 4 to St Norberts
Believe it or not, Arcadia has a shot at the tourney, their power ranking is around 9.8 which is 0.4 higher than Alvernia. PAC fans, there is still hope for two teams.
Frozenrope I agree with Augustana after looking at them closer. Their power ranking is around a 9.4 which puts them squarely on the bubble. That goes along with my comment about the Midwest and Central being down in D3 baseball this year.
Finally SUNY-Oneoneta does not have much of a chance. With a power ranking under 9.4, I can’t see an at-large coming their way.
Just a reminder I calculate power rankings by looking at all D3 competition and not just in region. I know that is not what the committee looks at, but I have enjoyed the discussion it has created and the new teams I can research. I will stay on my toes and try to have a final prediction out by Saturday night, Sunday morning.
May 8th, 2007 at 12:38 am
this blows my mind i think you all are crazy
May 8th, 2007 at 12:40 am
or maybe im just way off lol
May 8th, 2007 at 7:14 am
rkwach you say SUNY Oneonta has no chance…..what about SUNY Brockport are they still in the running??
I would have to say Alvernia has a better shot than Arcadia…by playing a tougher schedule
May 8th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Bracketologist,
Respectfully, I believe that you are confusing the issue if you are not staying by primary criteria alone, and are therefore not contributing to the education of these fans.
On football and basketball boards, we have gotten good enough to get down to the last pool B and C bids in our predictions by staying solely with the primary criteria. It is imperative that we must approximate the discussions that will occur in the committee room to the best of our ability, if we are to try to give give fans an insight as to what is happening. For me, that includes learning that the AMCC and the NJAC are in the same Evaluation Region in baseball, but not in men’s or women’s basketball.
I hope that your next post will deal only with the primary criteria.
Thank you.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:44 am
can anyone figure out rowans regional record
May 8th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
In the new ABCA poll, Southern Maine, Tufts, and Trinity all made their way into the top 8 in New England which is ridiculous. Southern Maine at 25-13 has a QOWI in the 8’s, lower than Babson (26-14), and they just lost to them a week ago. Tufts at 23-10 ended the year losing to EConn and splitting vs Babson, making their QOWI even lower. Trinity not qualifying for NESCACs, along with a very weak schedule does not belong on there either. I do like how they left St. Joe’s of Maine off the list, b/c although they won the NACs, the conferance and teams they play are a joke, and they do not belong either. It will be great to see who the committee selects for the NCAA regionals.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
has no bearing on ncaa regionals
May 8th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
for those who care, i re-calculated methodist’s qowi, and it should be 9.58…still a long-shot, but better than 9.44 – i keep forgetting that capital is a regional game…
May 8th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Good job narch1 to remember the new rule change on adminstrative regions and how it affects the regional rankings.
This incrementalism via the administrative regions is expanding the number of D3 opponents who are considered by the committee.
May 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
The Midwest Conference has yet to play its tournament, so St. Norbert should not yet be an AQ.
Heading into the MWC tourney, I figured Norbert’s QOWi at 9.2 and Ripon’s at 9.7, for what it’s worth.
Not that it really matters in the end. The MWC will probably only get an AQ, but I just wanted to point out that Norbert has not secured a bid as the asterisk indicated in the original post.
May 8th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
will Rowan or Ramapo continue with tournament play Thanks
May 8th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
im hoping ramapo continues on they swept rowan during the year and rowans record i dont think is strong enough
May 8th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Anyone Know the QOWI of the NY Region teams that are contending for a Pool C
May 8th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
This isn’t meant to call anyone out, but I think one thing that people need to realize is that QOWI is not the ONLY factor in selection of a team. While it is a great starting point and very important, in the handbook it clearly states that it is not the top priority. It is important to know a teams QOWI, but when comparing one to another I think this whole message board needs to realize that such things as teams not making their conference tournaments, or certain teams having worse records against common opponents, or even head to head competition is just as if not more important than just the numbers. If we really want to act like the group making the selections, we should look at the whole picture.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
i agree RFnumber that the QOWI isnt the only factor……so with this said though does anyone have any thoughts on who the 14 POOL C bids will be?
May 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
When does the 14 pool c bids become final ?
May 8th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
late sunday night into monday morning when all games are finished , doesnt give you much time to get ready if your in
May 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
What’s your justification for having Wheaton behind Eastern Conn despite season sweep?
Do the wins over TCNJ and Hopkins count towards the regional seeding?
May 8th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Longball06, I assume that you are talking about Wheaton MA or ECSU.
That being said, TCNJ and JHU are both in the same administrative region (#1) as both Wheaton MA and ECSU.
Therefore, they are regional games. Their outcomes impact the QOWI, the in-region winning percentage, and the games against regionally ranked opponents.
Head-to-head may impact seeding deeper into the bracket.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
ralph will the ncaa post one last regional poll before making the selections?
May 8th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
baseball, they will post the rankings on Thursday and then we will not see the final rankings that are generated on Sunday to help the Selection Committee.
I think that we had a real shaking out with the tourneys. Let’s see who is “still standing” on Thursday.
I wonder about the Mid-Atlantic. Lots of tourney teams picked up 2 losses this week as well.
May 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
yea should be interesting, thanx
May 8th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Frostburg State 9, at W&J 4. IN-region game (200-mile radius rule)
Frostburg State is 28-13/13-5 in the AMCC. I am not sure about the in-region record, but this is probably a 4- or a 6-point loss for the Presidents.
W&J have some pressure on them in the Pres AC tourney.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Ralph is right about the next rankings being posted this week. I spoke with one of the coaches on a regional committee today. He also told me that when they meet Sunday, they will send their top 8-10 teams in each region (minus the Pool A automatic qualifiers) that the national selection committee will use to pick the Pool B and C bids. This next ranking will give you a great idea if your teams are in a great position to be considered by the committee.
When I posted this last prediction I did make sure all the teams were on the last set of regional rankings by the NCAA committee and then I tried to factor in what had happened the remainder of the week to set up the rankings. I will admit I probably judged Keene State’s two losses a little too harshly and should have put them in and I agree after comparing Williams and Trinity more, I do like Williams profile better. And even though I took a flier on Mt. St. Joseph, I will stand behind them a bit because their regional record is really strong even though 3 of their losses did not garner them many power ranking points. Still I hope the committee really looks at a number of teams from the New England, New York, and Mid-Atlantic regions, because their are many teams with strong profiles, and many of you have brought them out. I also want to apologize to oshdude about the typo with the MWC.
I really wish there was a way to see published information that the selection committee uses, because I did see a demonstration of it once, and it is really neat. I do agree there are a lot of factors that are considered when making the selections and unfortunately we aren’t able to see all of them. I will still be back with a final prediction this weekend after the rankings come out and most fo the conference tournaments have completed. Thanks to everyone for the feedback and I will continue to improve on my selection making process.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
The Mid Atlantic Region has a handful of teams worthy..unfortunately many of them hurt their cause in their respective playoffs.
NJAC
Ramapo–great through 3/4 quarters of the season but the last 2 weeks or so really hurt
Rowan–Slow start but finished strong…
Kean–Def. in.
MAC
DeSales–really no quality…a decent schedule but no landmark wins..pretty much need to win it
Widener–same as above
Kings—pretty good record…but no huge region wins outside of in the conference
CC
Gettysburg—great start to season as well but faltered down the stretch..maybe a shot if they had made it to the championship
Ursinus–to up and down…good wins and bad losses…probably needed to win it.
F & M–slow start hurt…good record in CC …but no earth shattering wins in region take away the sweep by Alvernia early in season and it could change things a little.
PAC
Arcadia–odd finish…looked like a lock as long as they made it to sunday…some good wins…some bad losses…may have a slight chance if it comes down to quality of wins(etown, desales, swept ripon..not in region but maybe taken in to account)
Alvernia–killer Arizona schedule with some good wins…but nothing much back in the region including some bad losses. May have a slight chance as well if quality of schedule is taken in..but I doubt it.
Dont really no the math that everyone is throwing around…but if Kean gets off the board early…Ramapo, Rowan, and Arcadia should all have a slight chance…with a sleeper pick being Gettysburg.
Is this a realistic view..no locks but a few teams who can at least stay positive.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
Thanks, rkwachholz39. Please do your best to get a hold of in-region records if you can.
That would help us a great deal!
May 9th, 2007 at 8:37 am
It is to my understanding that the Selections for the remaining 14 at-large bids are done on a national level, rather than a regional one. Is that correct?
What I mean by this is two Mid-Atlantic region teams are basically in contention against two West region teams as much as they are each other and vice versa
May 9th, 2007 at 11:54 am
Frozenrope, you are right on. The regional committees submit those non-AQ teams with the best profiles and then the selections are made on who has the best profiles regardless of what region you are from. It is very possible for a region to be shut out from any Pool B or C bids because of that.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
With this being said…..who has the best case for receiving these bids
May 9th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
After the NCAA Regional rankings are release on Thursday, I will rank the top 30 teams that have the best case for Pool B and C bids that night. That way I will try and give you an idea at what the national committee is looking at before the final conference tournaments get underway. I will ranking them in order of In-Region record and then their QOWI Power Ranking. Unfortunately, it will be too difficult to factor in some of the other criteria because I do not have access to the database the committee has. But if your team has performed well against others on the list, and those ranked in your region, that will go a long way in possibly increasing your teams chances. I really only see 10 locks for Pool B and/or C bids currently. This list only includes lists from teams that have completed their conference tournament season and did not win the tournament. All have very strong regional records (above .700) and regional QOWI around 10 or higher. That leave 10 spots left up for grabs. That means if you team is on the bubble, you do not want a team that is highly ranked in their region lose their conference tournament (i.e. UW-Oshkosh or Eastern CT State)
Emory (Pool B/C)
Salisbury (Pool B/C)
Chapman (Pool B/C)
York (Pool B/C)
Ithaca (Pool B/C)
St. Scholastica (Pool B/C)
Washington (MO) (Pool B/C)
Kean (Pool C)
George Fox (Pool C)
TX-Dallas (Pool C)
May 9th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Ok, I was trying to figure out how a team like Trinity (CT) going 28-6 could not even make their own conference tournament. Then I realized how messed up the NESCAC format is. The NESCAC is separated into two regions; East and West which is very common in college sports. What isn’t common is that the games played between East and West teams don’t count for anything. So in reality Trinity is 14-4 in the conference but only the games against NESCAC East opponents count so therefore they are only 8-4. So the sweeps against Amherst, Wesleyen, and Hamilton are like out of league games. Does this not make since to anyone else???
May 9th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
i was looking at york, pa and they are at 24-11 in region and a 9.83 qowi
May 9th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
york vs. methodist is a great argument for looking at opponents-opponents records (as i understand will be the case next year)
every team in the usasac except greensboro (15-16) had a winning regional record, but because the conference is so strong, only one (MU) had a regional record over .667…when opponents-opponents records are considered, a conference like the usasac should get a real boost (if the trend of having almost every team above .500 in region continues)
each of the cac teams gets to play at least 2 games against 3 sub .500 teams (catholic, st. mary’s, gallaudet)
May 9th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Wildthing, I agree the NESCAC format seems a little kooky from the outside, but the teams are well aware of it going into the season, and the Bants knew they were leaving themselves vulnerable by losing two of three to both Bowdoin and Tufts (even though, yes, those are four of their only six losses on the season).
Does anyone else find some of the discrepancies between the ABCA regional rankings and the NCAA regional polls (and yes, I realize they’re released five days apart) odd? Take the aforementioned Jumbos, by the way (full disclosure: a team near and dear to my heart). #3 in NE the ABCA poll, and not even ranked in the NCAA NE regional poll? Do his coaching brethren really just love Coach Casey that much?
Or WNEC — #8 ABCA, #2 NCAA. What’s up with that?
Looking forward to some great tournaments this weekend, a long night Sunday into Monday, and a GREAT week next week.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
D3Cast:
First, welcome to the blog.
Secondly, it’s probably because the NCAA ranking follows closely on the NCAA criteria. http://www.d3baseball.com/faq/category/NCAA+Tournament
Tufts must not perform well in some of those areas.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Wildthing,
I am a NESCAC follower and I agree wholeheartedly. I hate the setup, particularly because teams like Trinity, Tufts, and Bowdoin get 6 useless wins every year against Bates and Colby. If I were running things, every team would play a doubleheader against every team. You’d play 4 games per weekend, and you would play your travel partner (home and away) at the end of the year. The NESCAC is SO RIDICULOUSLY focused on being on the same academic level as the Ivy Leagues, so they try to downplay sports. That’s why NESCAC teams can only play 23 games after Spring break. That’s why they only play 4 teams in their league instead of all of them. It’s awful, because there are some very good NESCAC baseball programs.
With that said, Trinity has noone to blame but themselves. Their southern schedule is ridiculously soft. Other than Babson and St. Lawrence, they load up on weak teams and continue playing weak non conference games untill the end of the year when they play Eastern CT and Amherst. Decker’s philosophy is that as long as he makes the NESCAC tourney, their record will be good enough to get them to the NCAAs if they don’t win the NESCAc tourney. Remember that winning a game on the road vs. a team that is 13-22 still counts as 11 points. Do that for an entire season and your QOWI will be very solid. Tufts has a solid team and proved it by taking 2 of 3 from Trinity, but the Bowdoin series is what killed Trinity. Bowdoin had not even practiced outside after Florida and they somehow swept the doubleheader after Trinity blew them out in the first game. Bowdoin is in the midst of a rebuilding year and sweeping Trinity on that Saturday was a huge suprise to anyone who follows NESCAC baseball.
So, even though the NESCAC does no favors for it’s teams, Trinity does not deserve to go. Williams is the only team in the NESCAC that deserves a Pool C bid if they do not win the tourney, and I would venture to say that Tufts deserves a bid much more than Trinity based on how they did against common competetion.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
D3cast,
Unfortunately, the ABCA poll means veyr little. The NCAA poll is a compilation of the in-region games teams have played. Tufts is only 15-7 in their “in-region” games, and the collective strength of their schedule and win-loss record is not strong enough to get them into the NCAA regional poll. The Brandeis and Endicott losses killed them. Two losses to under .500 teams is a big no-no if you want to be ranked in the NCAA regional poll.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Anyone hoping for a Pool C bid should be pulling for Eastern Conn, Williams, RPI, Illinois Wes, UW-Osh to win their tourneys this weekend
May 9th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Great call frozenrope, those top dogs need to win their conferance tourney’s to increase the number of bubble teams looking to get pool B and pool C bids.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
I have to agree with D3Cast on the disparity between ABCA and NCAA rankings. WNEC was 21 in the preseason poll, went 5 and 4 in Florida and came back ranked 23. They have gone 22 and 6 since then with 4 of the losses being 1 run losses(including ECSU and Wheaton), yet they disappeared from the national rankings and fell to 8 in the region! I will be interested to see where they end up seeded after losing to Williams and splitting with Wheaton last week.
May 9th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Rather than Selection Sunday,
how about “Make or Break Monday”? Or maybe “Midnight Delight”, though some folks might take that for something else lol.
May 10th, 2007 at 12:16 am
Ehh yeah … when the NCAA decided it was no longer capable of delivering basketball brackets on time it went from Selection Sunday to Matchup Monday.
I’m definitely open to other suggestions but can’t say either of those blows me away.
May 10th, 2007 at 1:08 am
I liked the first one. The second one I was just trying to come with an alternative, and it’s a crappy one I’ll admit.
I’ll work on it
May 10th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
It’s just that it’s barely Monday when it comes out. It’s only Monday on the clock, and not everywhere. It’s not “fiscal Monday” if you catch my drift.
Make or break sounds like it’s during the season. There might be a combination of “Monday Mourning” or “Overnight oversight” that could at least work its way into a headline. I don’t like moving away from a known quantity like Selection Sunday when most college sports fans know what that means.
Bracketology was cited in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today, by the way:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07130/784854-134.stm
May 10th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
what about Miracle Monday since the teams that won their conferences already know they are in
May 10th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Where will the selections for regionals be posted first? On this site, or is there somewhere else where we can get them instantly?
May 10th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
what are the chances of the winner of the NY ECAC tournament getting a bid? Oneonta, St. John Fisher, RIT?
May 10th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Making Last Minute Hotel Reservations Monday
Unless you’re going to the south regional of course, then it’s Making Campsite Reservations Monday.